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California shop owners to meet Nov. 12 to consider class action lawsuit

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More than 60 California body shop owners have RSVP’d Gene Crozat at G&C AutoBody that they will be attending a Nov. 12 meeting he’s organizing in Sacramento to discuss the prospects of filing a class action lawsuit against State Farm Insurance.

Attendees will be comparing notes and conferring with legal experts to determine whether they have compiled enough evidence to proceed with a court action against State Farm.

The main issue revolves around accusations of steering based on irregularities in the carrier’s labor rate surveys and frontline insurance personnel telling potential customers that their collision damage won’t be completely paid for – or the work won’t be fully guaranteed – if they take their wrecked vehicle to a non-direct repair program (DRP) facility.

Aggrieved shop owners contend that State Farm’s labor rate surveys vastly understate the accepted fees that collision repairers are charging, leading to underpayments and undue pressure being placed upon crash victims. They say the surveys focus on the rates being charged by DRPs rather than independent operations, and that outdated money amounts are frequently included.

California insurance industry representatives emphatically defend their practices in the Golden State, insisting that they do not engage in steering and that all the applicable laws are faithfully followed.

“If we can include everybody in the survey, the more accurate it will be,” says State Farm spokesman Dick Luedke. He says every shop in California is invited to submit their labor rate data, but many fail to do so because they lose their password to the carrier’s Internet reporting site.

“You have a facility ID, and we send letters to all the repair facilities giving them the ID,” Luedke points out. “You can update that survey every time you want to. “We can’t force them to do that, (but) we try to make it as easy as possible.”

Luedke suggests that shop owners contact their local State Farm representatives to obtain the correct password for participation.

G&C spokesman Peter Bizaca says the amount of positive replies to Crozat’s invitation to statewide repairers has been astounding. “Due to the overwhelming response, a larger space is needed to accommodate the crowd,” Bizaca reports. The new location is the Marriott Sacramento in Rancho Cordova, 11211 Point East Drive; 916-638-1100. The Nov. 12 meeting begins at 7:30 p.m. and will last about two hours. G&C can be reached at 707-591-3365.

Journalists from a number of media outlets, including the Los Angeles Times and Sacramento Bee, are expected to cover the event

“It’s an educational and informational meeting. We’d like to get a consensus for a class action lawsuit against State Farm,” says Bizaca. “It’s a problem that refuses to go away.”

He goes on to note how “this isn’t just about the body shops, this is about consumers, too. Most consumers don’t realize they have a choice” regarding where they can take their vehicles for repair, and they have the legal right to expect adequate reimbursement from the insurer that has underwritten the policy – notwithstanding whether the repairer is a DRP or an independent.

“The timing is right” for the body shop industry to take action, according to Bizaca. “It’s coming to a head with the writ and the non-stop steering we’re hearing about from across the state.”

The writ being referred to is a 24-page “Writ of Mandate” that Crozat has filed against California Insurance Commissioner Steve Poizner, staff official Darrell Woo and other Department of Insurance employees.

The document seeks to compel the department, under provisions of the California Public Records Act, to provide Crozat with copies of complaints filed by consumers unhappy with the performance of State Farm. Thus far Woo has only released the forms submitted by G&C customers, and Crozat already has copies of those; he wants to review the other filings as well.

Woo says those submissions are confidential and privileged.

Crozat contends that Poizner is not doing his job, and he is showing favoritism toward the insurance companies rather than adhering to his duty to protect consumers.

“No one’s going after the commissioner, and the problem is the commissioner,” says Crozat. “He’s deliberately turning a blind eye” to alleged misdeeds involving steering and faulty labor rate surveys. Calling the polling “totally skewed and fraudulent,” he charges that “the survey has motorcycle shops from five years ago” included in the tallies of stated labor fees.

“The answer for everybody in every state to sue the commissioner (in your jurisdiction) if you have evidence that he is not doing his job,” says Crozat.

Crozat suspects that Woo and Poizner have illegally disposed of the complaint forms. “This is going to open a can of worms,” he says. “This is going to prove that they throw them in the trash can.”

People in the body shop industry have told Crozat that they’re aghast at his spirited attempt to take on Poizner. Crozat counters that he’s trying to “stick a pin in the 500-pound gorilla” that Poizner has become through his clout as insurance commissioner and aspirations for higher office.

A Poizner spokeswoman requested that ABRN’s questions be submitted in writing; she subsequently did not respond to the queries.

Crozat alleges that Poizner is refusing to protect the state’s vehicle owners “because he wants the insurance companies’ money to run for governor.” (Arnold Schwarzenegger is to be term-limited out of office; Poizner is among the candidates, along with former governor and presidential candidate Jerry Brown, to replace him.)

State Farm’s Luedke says the company does not make campaign contributions.

In California, the insurance commissioner post has long been a stepping stone to other top leadership positions under Sacramento’s capitol dome. “We’ve never had a good commissioner because they’re always running for something else,” Crozat laments.

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 Posted 2009-11-02 13:35:16.0
Class Action lawsuit against State Farm should occur in all 50 states of the Union! Broaden your horizons attornies.Big money involved.I could tell and prove of Big Brothers scrupulice practices here in the Dakota's!
 Posted 2009-11-02 13:57:04.0
What good is this class action lawsuit if Arnold S. just passed AB1200? Anyways the insurance commissioners job is controlled and payrolled by the insurance industry. We will never get true labor rate pay out or reform if all the insurances lobby is financially stronger than we are. We are fighting a losing battle. And to make matters worse the insurance misinformation anti DRP independent shop campaign is just going to get worse and more blatant starting next year.
 Posted 2009-11-02 15:23:16.0
State Farm tells our customers that they do not have a businees relationship with us. They will not speak with us, write checks to us, come on our property to do estimates and/or supplements. Vehicles are towed from our property to another facility if not driveable in order to write their estimates and/or supplements.
 Posted 2009-11-02 19:58:45.0
We have had several customers say they were not able to use our shop because they were told by State Farm officials that our shop was not an "authorized shop". Those two words have come up several times. We don't think the customers are just giving an excuse because they have volenteered this information without being asked. These customers are some times acquaintances or friends who honestly interpret the words "authorized shop" to mean our shop is "not authorized" to do the repairs. Is this specific language legal?
 Posted 2009-11-02 23:23:02.0
This is awesome! The shops are finally going after the insurance companies! Steering finally cost me my body shop and I had to close it so it's too late for me, but I'm staying on top of the news. I want to see all these crooked insurers go down in a ball of flame.
 Posted 2009-11-03 09:39:38.0
If the shops have a problem with the survey process they need to talk to the owners of other shops who do not make it a point to updat their rates on State Farm's Business to business web site regularly. The survey is completely fair with the shop having the ability to update their rates several time a day if they want. State Farm used to chase shops once a year to get there rates wasting thousands upon thousads of work hours and it did not make sense. I have personally walked more than a handful of shops through the process just to check in a few weeks and see that they did not complete the survey. Obviously it is not that important to them. If it was State Farm who was breaking them financially , you would think it would be important for them to complete the survey. I am willing to be at least half of the shops who show up at this meeting have not completed the survey in the last year. Of course, they will try to say they didn't know how but how many letters is State Farm supposed to send to remind them. Every body shop worth it's salt knows how to contact their local State Farm office to speak with someone about the surveyed rates in their area yet they CHOOSE not to. Who's fault is that really?
 Posted 2009-11-04 08:55:30.0
I recall vividly attending the ARMS course years ago with Tommy Winters and others and they used the analogy of deer hunting whereas if a busload of hunters went into the woods to find a deer, that deer wouldn’t stand a very good chance of survival, however, if all the deer got together and collectively stampeded the hunters, the hunters would likely turn tail and most likely wouldn’t even get a shot off! I’ve never forgotten the ARMS lesson and while through the years one or two Brave-Hearts (like Crozat in Ca. and Gunder in Fl. and others) have risen to stand up for the rights of the collision industry and the consumer they serve and do so in the hopes that others will find the courage and conviction to do the same. As in the words of Benjamin Franklin: "We must hang together, gentlemen...else, we shall most assuredly hang separately." This has proven true for the past three or more decades and it’s time we start working together as a cohesive and dedicated industry to serve the public as we’d want to be treated. Barrett, www.AutoDamageExperts.com
 Posted 2009-11-04 09:12:25.0
With regard to State Farm's survey, one needs to merely ask themselves why would elect anyone with common sense freely participate in a program designed to short pay for repairs?? Who in their right minds truly believes that every shop in a given market, regardless of the quality provided, should be paid the same labor and material rates as all others…let alone the pricing as determined by the lowest common denominator?? Think of it this way, if someone did a “Survey” on all the hamburger prices in your market area, with the higher majority number of fast food like the Micky-D’s, BK’s, Wendy’s etc., and then add the minority numbers of the medium and upper quality restaurants in the mix, do you really think you could take the average and buy a hamburger at the Outback, or Ruby Tuesdays, Fuddruckers or any other decent restaurant for the average price of $1.59? No, of course not!!! Do you really think that the upper line restaurants would ever participate in such a survey? NO! Then one has to ask themselves; why should anyone participate in these ridiculous surveys?? Think of it this way: IF NO ONE PARTICIPATED…THERE WOULD BE NO SURVEY AND NO “PCP” TO SHOVE DOWN ANYONE’S THOAT!! It’s time to wake up and get involved as an industry! Barrett Auto Damage Experts
 Posted 2009-11-04 14:25:12.0
you sound just like a serve us first advisor. i personally sent in the nevada state survey it is required in this state before you renew your license and is public record. i was called and asked why i sent it in. i was told that they have been aware of the large rate difference for three years but we will not reconize that survey, only thier survey will be used. i was told to get all the shops to fill out the sf survey. most shops feel its a waste of time to fill out a survey for a company that will lie cheat and do anything to direct work away from them.
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